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Overcoming Racist Stereotypes from a Black Person's Perspective

Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:09 PM EST
us-news, south, blacks, race-relations, whites, morris-dees, black-history-monty
By Belinda_Joy

Civil rights attorney Morris S. Dees, Jr. co-founder and chief trial counsel for the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)

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My mother and father were born and raised in the South.

I can still remember Summers spent in Birmingham Alabama as a young girl with my grandparents. My mother passed when I was small and with 11 children to raise as a single parent, my dad had his hands full. Having his two smallest away for the Summer gave him a brief respite.

My neighborhood where I grew up on the North side of Milwaukee was made up of Blacks and Germans. I can't remember as a young person any incidents of racial strife, even though I would hear my father and older neighbors discuss racial issues.  It was only when we traveled to Alabama for the Summers that I would be reminded, mine was a race that was considered second class. I was different.

My grandparents spoke with a deep southern accent - broken English, and I remember my father constantly correcting our English when we would return to Wisconsin from visits with them. We would return saying "ain't and cuz" He insisted that we use proper English, always. When down South it was very much like I would see in movies. Everything seemed slower. The air was thicker, the Honeysuckle was in bloom and the people moved as slow as the drawls in their speech. I loved visiting because I loved being on a farm with chickens and having everything homemade. Fishing in ponds and catching fire-flies at night in Mason jars. Sleeping on the enclosed porch at night and listening to the crickets.

But......along with all the good memories of Alabama were the bad. Being called a "@!$%# gal" by the old White woman that lived at the bottom of the hill near my grandparents home, when I'd walk to close to her yard. Being spit at by little White boys at the neighborhood grocery store. When we would return home to Wisconsin I would share with friends how mean White people are in the south. I'd tell them all the horrible things said and done to us when down there.  Year after year I'd come home with more stories of how prejudice southern Whites were.

My father overheard me one time and it was my dad that first introduced me to a man named Morris Dees. Back then there was no video, it was all magazine articles and news clippings. He spoke of his involvement in making the lives of Blacks in the South better, and how he was fighting on our behalf to gain equality. My father, a southern Baptist minister, his life was rooted in his spiritual beliefs. He respected Morris Dees because he believed he was called by God, just as Martin Luther King Jr. had been, to change our country as it relates to race relations. My father believed Mr. Dees would be the catalyst to huge changes in how our society viewed Blacks.

One day I saw a interview with Morris Dees and I was transfixed. There on our television was a White man with a thick and heavy southern accent speaking of equality for Blacks. How could this be? It didn't compute in my mind. I had become accustomed to hearing a southern accent from a White person equating to being a bigot. There was no such thing as an open minded White person. That was the beginning of my awareness of making generalizations.

I have followed the Southern Poverty Law Center for decades now, and have seen and heard of all the good they have done. This man, who could easily be an actor plucked from a movie as a member of the KKK, is not at all the stereotype of what I paint southern Whites to be based on my earlier impressions.  A thick southern drawl does not necessarily mean they are bigoted. One of my favorite movies is To Kill A Mockingbird. Gregory Peck's character in the film was an image of a Southern White man, a lawyer, that I believed did not exist in the South. I had never met anyone like that in my visits to Alabama. If anything, they ran counter to that.

However Morris Dees taught me men of that caliber do indeed exist.

So, with the new year upon us and another year acknowledging Black History Month, I give public thanks to Morris Dees. A man that taught me not to fear a southern drawl. Not to assume a southern accent equates to uneducated and narrow minded. That as my father said, the stereotype I have of southern Whites is the minority, not the majority of Whites. Mr. Dees contributed to the self esteem of countless Black men and women not just in the South, but throughout America. One of my biggest fears in life is that I will die and not leave a wide footprint.  What impact will I have left on people who have entered and exited my life? Morris Dees can die knowing he had a profound impact on our society by standing up for justice in the face of those that were Hell bent on denying it to Blacks.

On behalf of every Black person in America, I thank you.

 

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williamxxx

Beautifully written, Ms Joy. I hope to live to see the day when I meet a Black child who feels happy and at home in this country. I have met so many black people who have never felt free or at home here.

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM EST
bonos_rama

What a nice article, Belinda Joy.

Clipping to the group "Anti-Discrimination".

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:21 PM EST
onefan51

Fishing in ponds and catching fire-flies at night in Mason jars.

You've also described my childhood growing up in Alabama. Morris Dees is one of my heroes and so is former Alabama attorney general Bill Baxley.

Baxley's tenure was noted for its racial unrest, and Baxley himself incurred the wrath of the Ku Klux Klan when he reopened the case of the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing. In a letter, the Klan threatened him, compared him to JFK, and made him an "honorary N-word," but Baxley responded, on official state letterhead: "My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is--kiss my ass."

http://www.askbiography.com/bio/Bill_Baxley.html

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM EST
Belinda_Joy

onefan51, thanks so much for the link. I was not familiar with Baxley, but now I have another Southerner to add to my list of admired men of the South.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:56 PM EST
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Polka14

People like Morris Dees are unfortunately in the minority of those that call themselves "whites". It is unfortunate but that is how the facts would portray the situation. Many years have passed since the Civil Rights Movement but I think open racism and hostilities towards various ethnic groups are as bad as they were 50 or even 100 years ago. Less from government but open displays of hostilities from the general population is very obvious against African-Americans, Hispanic/Latino-Americans and especially Arab-Americans. This would vary across the nation. The ratio of positive/negative personalities is not a constant in all regions. Some have a greater number of evil racists. Some have less.

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:32 PM EST
Belinda_Joy

Polka14, I would respectfully disagree with you. I happen to believe there is a difference between being "racist" and being "prejudice"

I believe prejudice among the races is definitely still alive and well. But racism.....in that one race thinks they are superior to another as our history has always lived by, has lessened through the years with desegregation. As more people live and work among other races and cultures, I believe all of the crap some have been taught to believe about certain races and ethnicity's, is seen for what it is.....crap. Today when a White parent tells their college aged kid how Blacks are all dirty or lazy, because they have been exposed to Black youth in their own lives at college, they know what is being said isn't true. So as they go out in the world they don't share their parents "racist" views.

That change along with the fact that minorities have rights, power and a voice, far more than we have ever had in our nation's history - takes the sting out of true racism. When it does occur, when Blacks are faced with it now, WE have a responsibility and the ability to fight it and win! :-) My ancestors 50 or 100 years ago did not.

Our nation may not be perfect now in terms of race relations, but it is nothing like it was 50 years ago.

  • 6 votes
#4.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:09 PM EST
Polka14

I think it would be a mistake to see a sharp reduction in openly practiced racism and equate that with a real reduction in this form of hate. Racism is practiced in secret and among people that think they share the same views. Obama and his family has suffered the worst racially charged attacks in the entire history of the executive office and some of those same people would use that to accuse Obama of being divisive. Racism against Arab-Americans are on the rise and laws are passed to harass Hispanic-Americans in some states. And even voting is under attack across the nation because some would know that it would negatively effect African-Americans. Even "ethnic studies" are under attack in some places.

I worry about youth having the same twisted views of their elders. Racial politics are expressed by government leaders, political talk show hosts, authors and other people. I worry that the issue of race is used today as a weapon of hate and misinformation. Some youth reject racism and that is the good concept. I hope that it can make a difference however I see no reason to be too optimistic about it. I was optimistic about Obama's election but seeing all the attacks against him makes me feel ashamed of this nation.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:24 PM EST
Belinda_Joy

You know Polka, you are correct when you say there is "racism" pointed at the first family. I agree with you. Many of the people that don't like them and don't want the Obama's in the white house, don't want him there because they don't believe he is qualified to be president of the United States. After all, how could he be, "he isn't White." I 100% believe that is true and that there are indeed millions that think that way.

However, I would gently suggest that you look at it this way. In 2008 Barack Hussein Obama would NEVER have been voted into office is America was made up of a majolrity of people through the prism you view our nation. Keep in mind, even if every Black, Latino and Asian would have voted solely for Obama, he still wouldn't have gotten enough votes to win.

So that speaks to the overwhelming number of White people in America that may yes.....have prejudices of one type or another....but that doesn't make them racist. I have White friends that admit to clutching their purses a little tighter if they see a group of Black youth approaching them. Yet these same White women have Black department heads and had Black professors in college, so the idea of a Black president wasn't out to the realm of belief to them. They aren't racist because they have a pre-judge (ice) that Black youth are gang members. I'm Black and I too have moments when I clutch my purse a little tighter in those scenarios. :o)

The same rings true today in my opinion. The overt and subtle racism that you addressed is real and I agree with you it exist. But where you and I differ is I recognize for every one racist American there are 1000 that don't think that way. As long as we can keep that ratio in place, we'll continue to be a nation that is progressing, instead of regressing.

  • 3 votes
#4.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:12 PM EST
Polka14

In 2008 Barack Hussein Obama would NEVER have been voted into office is America was made up of a majolrity of people through the prism you view our nation

I think it is a majority of "whites" that hold that opinion or similar opinions. The number of "whites" that voted for Obama were majority young and liberal. That increased support from independents, minorities and the above enlightened "whites" gave Obama victory in 2008.

So that speaks to the overwhelming number of White people in America that may yes.....have prejudices of one type or another....but that doesn't make them racist. I have White friends that admit to clutching their purses a little tighter if they see a group of Black youth approaching them.

I personally dislike negative prejudices and I can't rationalize them. I don't treat people differently or judge them differently based on race. In my opinion that isn't right. I'm sure that is not full racism but it must be seen as related.

The overt and subtle racism that you addressed is real and I agree with you it exist. But where you and I differ is I recognize for every one racist American there are 1000 that don't think that way. As long as we can keep that ratio in place, we'll continue to be a nation that is progressing, instead of regressing.

I don't think it is 1-1000 or the right wing politicians would not be working so hard to pander to them.

It is difficult to see progress when we have politicians openly condemning an Islamic center in NYC or ethnic studies in Arizona and an entire political party (Tea Party or Tea Klux Klan as I call them) that exists only to evict Obama from office (as seen with their countless racist images that comes even from their party leaders).

  • 4 votes
#4.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST
Kathleen McKenzie

The number of "whites" that voted for Obama were majority young and liberal.

I don't know; do you have statistics to back that up? I ask because I'm in my 70s; my sisters, my brother and I, although living in Wisconsin, lived through the Civil Rights Movement. We all voted for Obama. The people in my church, in my retirement community, and in my neighborhood seem heavily in favor of Obama. I'm beginning to see bumper stickers that proclaim "Obama in 2012."

I, too, have been stunned and sickened by the unrelenting attacks on our President and his family. We are not as far along as I once thought we were.

I read about Morris Dees years ago, sometime after his legal action to increase the hiring of blacks for the highway patrol in one of the southern states. Not long after hiring practices were changed, Morris wrote that he was flying down the highway and pulled over for speeding. The patrolman was black, inspected Morris Dees' driver's license, handed it back and said, "Pleased to meet you, Mr. Dees. Mind those speed limits now," or words to that effect.

  • 2 votes
#4.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:12 PM EST
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Flashypaws

Many years have passed since the Civil Rights Movement but I think open racism and hostilities towards various ethnic groups are as bad as they were 50 or even 100 years ago.

no. youre wrong. thats not even close.

the fire of racism is still burning... and its burning as loud as it ever was.

but thats the sound of millions of people peeing on it.

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:47 PM EST
hugh b

i moved to alabama from new england in 1997 and have just left this year

having traveled all over the world many times i've seen quite a bit of the world and people

we have more in common with one another regardless of what hue of human you may be

and on more than one occasion i was humbled by the generosity and courtesy of the poorest but nicest people

of all the places i've been, the one place i was most happy to leave was alabama, as a general observation, it is not an easy place to like

and mr dees is indeed a valiant defender of people

  • 1 vote
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:51 PM EST
TheyreAllCrooks

Very nicely written, but black stereotyping ain't going away...especially in 2012 and this politcal season.

President Obama is "the food stamps president"....Gingrich

"I don't want to help black people by giving them somebody else's money"...Santorum

The beat goes on into infinity.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 7:41 PM EST
ERich-356044

Beautifully written!!!

Morris Dees has been on my donor list (people that I give to every year) for decades as well. He is a true hero and pioneer. His brilliance at getting the KKK legally is second to none.

:)

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 8:02 PM EST
Confer

Ms. Joy as usual you write a fine read. I appreciate your insights on this topic and hope that you will continue to encourage needed back-and-forth in an honest and productive way.

You have set the stage for a rare opportunity to have a conversation to include someone who is white that would offer a pragmatic (albeit frank) representation of thoughts. I appreciate the fact that this may not be appropriate. I would understand completely if this is the case. Thank you.

  • 1 vote
Reply#9 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST
ShawnD19

Interesting. I did know who Mr. Dees was. I learned something today. Good article.

I wrote an article earlier today about race from a white mans perspective. I find the subject endlessly facinating. Unfortunately I have learned that we are further away from being color blind than I thought.

  • 3 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:32 PM EST
Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

Hetep and Respect Belinda_Joy most interesting and thought provoking piece as we enter Black History month.It is always good to see Cultural Literacy raised.

Morris Seligman Dees, Jr.

On behalf of every Black person in America, I thank you.

I second that! Every AA's and American of good will should know this honorable American's name and his deeds.

Tim Wise is another European American that fights Cultural Terrorism and its resulting Cultural Poisoning. Do you know his work?

  • 3 votes
Reply#11 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:05 AM EST
Belinda_Joy

Aunk, I do indeed know of Tim Wise. He is no shrinking violet....not particularly shy eh? :o)

I happen to appreciate people that speak their mind and stand in their own truth. Even if their opinion may not be accepted by most, they stick to their guns (so to speak). It is people with this mindset that are responsible for the civil rights movement. Tim Wise speaks about the White perspective in a manner that draws praise from Blacks, but....I can't help but wonder if his, is a perspective that very few White people share. I don't know many White people that know of Tim Wise that agree with him.

I like what he has to say, but that is because he speaks to opinions I and many other Blacks hold about White people. So I guess you could say I am bias in that regard.

  • 2 votes
#11.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:05 AM EST
Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

H&R BJ, glad to see Mr. Wise's perspective moving to more and more ears. However, you point about most Whites is well taken.

I can't help but wonder if his, is a perspective that very few White people share.

Most Whites are Culturally Illiterate regarding Black history, cosmologics and culture in general. The reality is that most are illiterate regarding their own recent and ancient history as it relates to other ethnic groups.

I don't know many White people that know of Tim Wise that agree with him.

This is true but I have found that this number is growing however, slowly. The fact that he is getting more exposure at the University, social service and progressive police department levels is encouraging. The European Americans get to here a perspective from a Culturally Literate member of their own ethnic group, even if it does not cure the dis-ease on the first pass it is a start in addressing the illness.

However, I would gently suggest that you look at it this way. In 2008 Barack Hussein Obama would NEVER have been voted into office is America was made up of a majolrity of people through the prism you view our nation. Keep in mind, even if every Black, Latino and Asian would have voted solely for Obama, he still wouldn't have gotten enough votes to win.

2008 is the first time we had the opportunity to literally measure the national cultural health in this manner with actual numbers. I wrote about this at the time, here on the vine and in other places. America's Cultural Health may not be where we would like to see it in a perfected America but it defiantly has improved and we have the numbers to prove it.

Men like Mr. Dee's, Mr. Wise, Dr. King and President Obama are directly responsible for the Cultural Health improvements that can be measured. By teaching, talking and doing people make themselves examples that make a difference.

These real life examples make it easier to take note, in places like here on the vine, were people must put their words on the record, who is building, who is frozen in time and who is tearing down.

It is important to point out progress and the routes to progress. You are right when you say,if I remember your words, their is a difference between racism and prejudice. I agree, people are often to quick to make the high charge of racism when a lesser charge is more fitting the crime.

In the Cultural Health business be say there is a middle ground between humanism and racism and cultural poisoning is most often found in that middle ground.

  • 2 votes
#11.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:24 PM EST
American Dreams

Belinda_Joy

This my first exploration into to your articles. I enjoyed reading this article and your perspective. I did not know a thing about Mr. Dees and will have to look him up. He sounds like my kind of people.

I was raised in the deep south. Much of my childhood memories are similar to yours... hot sticky nights sleeping on the screen porch, the buzz and whine of bugs serenading us to sleep. I remember catching fireflies, building sandcastles and playing in the surf at sun set. But unlike you I lived it year 'round and was not shuffled between two "cultures".

I remember walking with my older sisters to our Southern Baptist Church on Sunday mornings in spring. Our miles long path took us through the piney woods of South Florida and down a couple sandy roads. We had so much freedom to roam and play as children...how sad the innocence of those days is a thing of the past.

My racially mixed Church membership was very small by today's standards, probably under 300. We knew when Mama B needed a ride to Church or the Store and we knew when Mr Gaye was house bound again due to illness. Those little ol' Southern Church Ladies would cook up a storm and fill his freezer with food fit for a king. Considering my mother was a closet bigot it was amazing that my Dad was able to raised us as well as he did not to see color and to try and treat everyone with respect and fairness.

I know of Tom Wise. He makes a good living saying the right words to the right crowds. I do not find him heroic or worthy of being placed on a pedestal of glory. I would apply terms favored by Aunk to Mr. Wise He is suffering from "cultural poisoning" and a "cultural traitor". I know this is not a popular view in your seed but it is what it is.

I will agree with him on this point:

Wise credits the lack of discussion to white people's desire to not live in the past. "We have to move past this," Wise spoke in theory for the white population, "we can't get stuck in the past."

Ironically, the white population quite likes the past. "White America loves the past especially a past that makes them feel good," he said.

Why is it so wrong to be white and an American that likes the good things from the past? What is wrong with liking the good things of the present for that matter?

I will not wear Tom Wise's the mantel of white guilt for wrongs done by others years ago. I have far more faith in the words of Rev. King then Tom Wise. We can not change the past wrongs, we cannot change someone who does not want to change, we can only change ourselves and work for a better tomorrow for all. I do my best not consciously hurt another soul and treat each person as I wish to be treated.

I appreciate that you have not twisted someone words or used "double speak " to bait someone into violating the CoH. Your replies to comments have been candid opinions and respectful. I look forward to reading more on your views.

    #11.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:33 PM EST
    American Dreams

    Just a little quote from one of my favorite actors: Will Smith 1986

    “Throughout life people will make you mad, disrespect you and treat you bad. Let God deal with the things they do, cause hate in your heart will consume you too.”

    • 2 votes
    #11.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:14 AM EST
    Belinda_Joy

    American Dreams, I love the way you write.

    When I read your post my mind drifted back to my days spent in the south and I was almost tempted to close my eyes and reminisce....if only for a moment. Back to the days of making pies with my grandmother. I can still see her apron and her "old hands" kneading the dough. The smell of fried chicken made with a chicken that just moments ago was clucking in a barn. I can remember the old church we attended. Almost all of the men in my family were Baptist ministers, so Alabama was chock full of "Pastor Jim's" back then. Church for me, as was for you, a big deal.

    It makes me sad that the young kids in my family will never have the memories of youth that you and I experienced. If I close my eyes I can feel the humid, sticky Summer's nights laying on the porch listening to a small transistor radio. The sound of trucks and cars passing on a gravel road. We could go for walks in the woods without fear of being abducted. We loved running around and playing in nature. Video games and electronics (beyond a radio) were not even in the realm of reality. Fun for us was being with our friends and playing until night fell and our Grandmother calling us in for dinner. Which we all ate together at the same table. Where we would eat, laugh and talk. Yes...those were good times.

    As for Tim Wise, he says the opinions that I believe most Blacks want to hear Whites say....but don't. It is no different than Rush Limbaugh when he speaks to those that hang on his every word. He speaks words that resonate with those that think as he does. Tim Wise on the other hand knows what Blacks want to hear, so he says it. He panders, but so do an awful lot of others sadly. As I said, I don't think he necessarily speaks for most White Americans. Any Black person that believes he does, is setting themselves up for a rude awakening.

    I know for a fact, I have had them, a civil conversation about race can take place. One where both sides of the conversation don't feel attacked, judged or misunderstood. It comes down to whether those having the discussion really want to "hear" what the other is saying....or if they are more focused on being "heard" I can always tell when I am dealing with someone that wants to hear me, and conversely I can tell when I am in a place where I feel I just want to be heard. (not good)

    • 5 votes
    #11.5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:01 AM EST
    American Dreams

    Now this is how we "get past the past" and move forward in race relations and discussions! As I read your response I thought "She understands me!" and it was such a rush. I agree, civil conversations and understanding between black and white Americans ARE possible. I have had them too. Heck, we're having one right now.

    Sadly, too many people when the topic of race, racism and our connected American history comes up loose the civility in their speech and focus on the negatives of each side. I do not wear rose colored glasses and ignore the past. It will always be there, the good the bad and let's face it the down right ugly parts. I prefer that we learn from it but do not dwell on it.

    My Grand-children live with me now in north Texas. The oldest is 5 and going to pre-school. Her mind is like this HUGE sponge absorbing data and personal interaction experiences. About a half of the children in her class have parents who are recent immgrants from Africa (Sudan, Nigeria and Ghana), Mexico and Pakistan.

    I take her to the school lobby in the mornings so have a moment to watch her inter-act with these first generation Americans before the Teachers gather them up. She made a few comments in the beginning of the school year about how their skin tones and their hair was different or alike from hers. But she was far much more interested in the fact they were someone her age to play with. She was thrilled to find someone else to show off her dancing and singing skills(?). She watches in delight as the other little girls showed off their own skills(?) and claps in approval like a good audience member should. The difference between them at the start of the school year has been replaced with how alike they are. "Kaleb likes to Lightening McQueen just like me!" "Aaleyah likes Repunzel" and "Maria can sing just like Airel". " Mikal is really good at play-doh". The whole class freely hug each other when they meet, they share laughs, wigggles, giggles, and smiles. They play tag and other private games only 5 years know the rules to. I wish as adults we could be so accepting of each other.

    I figure we have another couple years before the problems of race raises it's ugly head. Sooner or later, like all childern she will learn the "N" word and a host of other derogatory words for people of all races and we'll have have to explain them. I do not look forward to that time because it signals the beginning of the end of childhood innocence. Until then I will enjoy her innocence while I can.

    GAKINA AWIIYA - Ojibwe for: "WE ARE ALL RELATED" (I have an NA friend on Newsvine who uses this as his "motto". I like the simple truth of it and use it when I can.)

    • 3 votes
    #11.6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:41 PM EST
    Belinda_Joy

    Your Granddaughter is 5 and so is my great niece. Again, I can relate to you!

    Isn't it a hoot to watch when they play and interact with kids their age. My niece LOVES diversity. Like your granddaughter, she too has not been touched by the uglier side of life yet. However there is a huge difference between these two little girls and those our age that were growing up in a world of discrimination. Dr. King's dream is a reality for them. Dr. King's dream of Black children being judged on the "content of their character more so than the color of their skin" it is here and will be only stronger in 10 or 15 years.

    By the time they are in high school, there will still be cliques....groups that cling to one another. You know, the jocks, academics, nerds, "easy girls" etc. etc. That's a given, there always have been and always will be. But if they dislike someone of a different race or religion, I happen to believe it will be because they don't like "that person" instead of not liking them because they belong to a certain race or ethnicity. I truly believe that.

    Will Smith told a story on the Oprah Show once about when his small daughter had a crush on a little White boy in her class. But one day came home and said she no longer liked him because he said something mean to her. Will said he and Jada looked at one another and braced themselves to hear that he had called her the N-word or something along those lines.... When they asked her what he had said, she looked at them and said "He said I was ugly" (Or something simple like that, I can't remember). Will said he learned in that moment how far we had come.

    And he is correct. Bigotry will still exist in my opinion decades from now, but it won't be anywhere near as bad as you and I may have known it to be. The biggest issue my race will have in the years to come will be the need to accept that we have asked for equality, to be judged for who we are and not our race. Well, when people dislike us, we have to let go of the knee jerk reaction that we are being hated because of our skin, and that sometimes....sometimes....it is simply because we are behaving or acting in a manner that is unpleasant. There will come a day (and I happen to believe we are there) when it isn't always race or racism at play.

    • 3 votes
    #11.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:15 PM EST
    Tina-293371

    American Dreams, I can relate.
    My 4 year old grandson has a "best friend" at pre-school.
    I didn't know he was black til I saw him.
    We should all retain the color blindness of little children.

    Belinda, I see so many black and white high school kids hanging together now.
    There is hope for the younger generation.

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    #11.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:24 PM EST
    ERich-356044

    Tina,

    My son too... :) I see my daughter conversing with a broad bunch of friends, and they are all just amazing people.

    I think it is easier for younger generations to converse with each other. My hope is that they always stay that way and don't learn 'bad habits' from the older generations.

    E

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    #11.9 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST
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    Spooky Boyfriend

    ...some concepts are not "englishable"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK4zBRkog8o&feature=related

      Reply#12 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:29 AM EST
      Belinda_Joy

      Spooky, HOW HAD I NEVER HEARD OF FELA!

      I am hooked! Thanks for the link. Loved it.

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      #12.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:51 AM EST
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      Confer

      I appears that I have misread your intentions regarding the need to have discussions that allow more to them than one perspective. Please let me know if that is at play here or you simply missed my comment above. Thanks.

        Reply#13 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST
        Belinda_Joy

        I'm sorry Confer, but I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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        #13.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:34 PM EST
        Confer

        Belinda-Joy-

        I apologize, I thought my #9 comments were fairly straightforward.

        Is your article intended to be something more than another, "here is what whites did to us" session. These conversations are admittedly "feel better" gatherings but only promote the "separate but equal" mentality.

          #13.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:36 PM EST
          Belinda_Joy

          Is your article intended to be something more than another, "here is what whites did to us" session. Confer

          Wow, what can I say to that?

          Well, as I stated in the article, it was my homage to Morris Dees for being a White man that was the first to teach me not to be judgemental against southern Whites because of prejudices I acquired when I was a young girl. I also chose to write it because it is Black History Month and I am writing several articles on the topic of race as it relates to Blacks in America, as my part in contributing to the conversation of race.

          It is unfortunate that you seem to have a problem reading articles that you deem to have a slant toward "here is what whites did to us" - I can only speak for myself in that regard, and what I wrote certainly doesn't apply.

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          #13.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:59 PM EST
          Confer

          I indicated before that your writings are well done.

          My goodness woman you must be having a bad hair day. I know what month it is. It was to my concern that you may not wish to see comments that are anything other than positive, "watered down" input from those who are not black. This is why I initially asked for your opinion. I could have just taken the liberty to participate and started typing.

            #13.4 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:28 PM EST
            Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

            Hetep and Respect Confer, It appears that I have misread your intentions, unless you know BJ personally and have permission to take such liberties.

            Your posts to this point IMHO have been filled with example of disrespectful common borderline COH Cultural Poisoning phrases.

            My goodness woman you must be having a bad hair day. I know what month it is.

            Had you produced this sexist diatribe in my column your comment would have been promptly deleted.

            I can only assume that the Columnist has not seen your comment or is just a kind hart, so far.

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            #13.5 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST
            Confer

            I have no idea what "hetep and Respect Confer" translates into. What I do understand is this: You may consider your responding to questions I have not "sent" your way, as unwelcome. I only know this author, from responding to one other fine article she wrote, where I agreed with her views. As far as taking "liberties" with her personally, you need to take your "damsel in distress" costume off and re-read what I "said".

            Your mixed metaphors notwithstanding, you may feel as you wish vis-a-vis my posts and your perceptions of them. Deliberate violations of the COH is something we all need to be concerned with.

            The way you have represented (in italics above) as a"sexist diatribe" in my humble opinion is patently foolish. One of the modern utterances, "Get Real", comes to mind as an appropriate response.

            Mr. Aunk, as to my being on "your column" neither of us would gain much from such an experience certainly from a "cultural health" standpoint.

            Finally, since I hadn't had an answer from Ms. Joy, I made myself a bit more familiar with her views, via Google. It seems a shame to have gotten my answer there. She remains a very talented writer.

              #13.6 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:59 PM EST
              Belinda_Joy

              Aunk, in regard to your response about Confer's comments I will say only this. I use this story in instances like this. The story of the farmer and his son.

              A farmer walks out to his stable one day to find his little son buried chest high in horse manure. Shoveling and shoveling away. His father looks at him, smiles and says "Son, what on Earth are you doing diggin' in that pile of horse crap?" His son looks up at him covered with manure and says "I reckoned in a pile of @!$%# this high there had to be a pony buried in it somewhere!"

              That is what comes to mind when I read comments like Confers. It is tantemount to someone saying "She really has a beautiful face for a fat broad!" You know there's a compliment in there somewhere....but you just can't see it because it is masked by the insults. There are some I have on my ignore list that I don't even read their replies. There are others that are not on my ignore list that I simply ignore because they insult me to get a rise out of me. These people serve a life lesson by testing my patience.

              He is in that category.

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              #13.7 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST
              Confer

              You would have to know more about Confer to realize he would never indicate that you had any talent if he didn't mean it. He tells me (I like this third-person stuff) that he meant what he "said" regarding your talent.

                #13.8 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:33 PM EST
                Aunk (The Cultural Health Guy)

                H&R BJ, tnx for your most edifying story of the farmer and his son. You also make a good point about time management and Ignore lists.

                These people serve a life lesson by testing my patience.

                You are indeed a wise and kind hatred person master teacher. I do try to follow the example of good spirits like the President and yourself regarding patience, unfortunately sometimes I fail.

                Sometimes I have flashbacks to my military training during the days of Vietnam. Seeing fire coming from the bush one would just open up with the M60 and if a farmer's ox or pony was taken out by mistake, you were instructed to pay them and move on.

                As I recite the 42 commandments tonight I will note my failure and add a patients script to my meditation. I have copied the Farmer and his Son Story to Evernote on my Iphone for further study and use.

                Thank you again for the lesson good spirit.

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                #13.9 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:21 PM EST
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                bestquest

                To the meat and potatoes.

                Education was and is the real answer.

                Chicago, Detroit and Cleveland all have 50% drop out rates. I avoid Wisconsin, so I do not know the percentage in Milwaukee area.

                Opportunity for fairness, a decent job that pays a living wge, access to live in a safe neighborhood inside a well built house are the goals of every one. Does not matter color, religion or how many generations family has been in north amerika.

                This awareness started with the right to vote in the late 50's. The educational systems had already been instructed by court decisions - yes, even by southern raised white federal judges. Voting rights were a more difficult hurdle because it was each local. Not state wide authority. So, Bobby Kennedy borrowed some fellas from McNamara and they protected the various marches from harm as they let their local officials know that they wanted their legal right to vote.

                Change management took court decisions and legal is slow. There were only about 10 civil rights lawyers in the DC dept of justice. Today there are over 700, and they do very little compared to the original 10.

                  Reply#14 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST
                  Tina-293371

                  I thoroughly enjoyed your article, Belinda Joy.

                  As a white woman who as a teenager participated in the civil rights movement in my area of the midwest, and have the privilege of having members in my family of all hues and nationalities, I can say that we have come a long way in race relations in this country, but in many ways not far enough.

                  I would say that the average Joe or Jane in America is not virulently racist. They would not even think of barring entry to black people like was done in the south during desegregation of schools, or yelling racial epithets, or believe that blacks should be segregated in the general society. They live and work alongside black people generally with no problems.

                  But these same people will not hesitate to tell a racist joke or pass along E mails that rant and rave about blacks being lazy or trying to get special privileges, or racist jokes about our President. I receive these sickening E mails from some people I would never ever expect.

                  When the First Lady stated that she was proud of this country for the first time, I knew exactly what she meant.

                  • 1 vote
                  Reply#15 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST
                  Belinda_Joy

                  Tina, thanks for the kind words and for sharing your perspective on this topic.

                  The image you paint of your family, friends and life is very much like mine. I wrote another article on the topic of race relations that touches on racism vs. being prejudice. We are still a very prejudice nation. Very. We still "pre-judge" one another and deal with each other based on stereotypes. As a Black woman, I too get probably the exact emails you make reference to from my White friends and colleagues. When I call them out on it (I have the type of friends that are very frank and honest) they will admit they see where it can be offensive, but they also believe some of the emails to be funny. Huh?

                  The way I look at it is this. Among White young people today (30 and younger) there are those that use the term "Nigga" to refer to their friends. Just as Black males do...."My Nigga" They hear it in the music, they see it on TV and in movies, they hear it among their own Black friends. So there is a freedom in their minds that "Well if they can say it, so can I"

                  I would suggest that is a term no one should use. But it is also brings up an issue where Black people believe they own the word, have claimed it, redefined it, and no one that isn't Black is allowed to use it. White people counter, "but we are using it by the same definition Blacks are using it, so what's the harm?" They aren't saying YOU @!$%#! they are saying "My Nigga" It's all quite silly. But it also explains why so many people today don't see the hurt and insults that are attached to many of the cartoons and humor being passed among emails that are racially sensitive.

                  It's almost as if we have fooled ourselves into believing we should all be able to laugh at race related jokes because sometimes we do and sometimes we don't. The line keeps shifting and moving to the point you never know these days when you've crossed it.

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                  #15.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:23 AM EST
                  Tina-293371

                  I get so angry when white people say "If black people can use the N word, why can't I?"

                  I always reply "Why would you WANT to use it?"

                  There is no reason for anyone to use that word in any context, in my opinion.

                  • 3 votes
                  #15.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:48 PM EST
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                  American Dreams

                  It's almost as if we have fooled ourselves into believing we should all be able to laugh at race related jokes because sometimes we do and sometimes we don't. The line keeps shifting and moving to the point you never know these days when you've crossed it.

                  I think you just posted a major observation as to why we are having these "new" problems between the races. The "line" and when "you" cross it keeps changing. People are walking on egg shells for fear they will offend someone.

                  It brought back a memory of something Tom Wise wrote: (Mark it on your calender I found something else positive that he said!) I can not find the exact quote but he said something about how white folks are afraid to say anything that might be taken the wrong way so they say nothing. And I realized for me that is true in many situations. I am afraid to say certain words or phrases if there are black Americans around who may (and depending on the person's attitude will) take it the wrong way. I can even trace it back to where I was and who I was speaking to that I developed this "fear".

                  I was in the Air Force in 1992. The Shop Supervisor was a Tsgt. Peoples. He saw racism in every action of every none-black person he encountered. It was my first time of meeting a person so attentive to the skin tone of who he was speaking to. I made a mistake one morning shortly after he arrived on Base and assumed the Supervisor position. I walked past his office door on the way to my work area and greeted him with "Morning Boss." He called me into his office, told me to shut the door and proceeded to give me a good 15 minute lecture the history of Slavery and how the innocent act on my part of calling him "Boss" was racist. I was floored! He would sit in his office or during shop meetings, his eyes hooded, scanning everyone in the room, fingers "templed", wearing a slight frown until he thought he had a "GOTCHA" moment. Then he would launch into a lecture on how the comment just made by a non-black person was based on racism and but he would always stop short of openly calling the person a racist.

                  In a way he stole my remaining shreds of racial innocence. For years after my run in with him I had to make an effort NOT to see the other person's race first and foremost. I prefer to see each person for who they are not what they are. I like it when I feel the other person also sees me for who I am not what I am. I am more concerned about are you a good person? Are you someone I could be friends with? If I work with you will you pull your share of the workload? Do you have integrity? honesty? morals and are your ethical? Does the respect go both ways or do you demand my respect while giving none in return? These are more import to me then the shade of your skin. I hate when skin tones gets in the way.

                  When he was finally busted for drugs during a random urinalysis he pitched a royal hissy fit claiming he was picked on because he was black. (If you know how random urinalysis operates it it truly random. I got called up 5 times in 6 months. and then was not called agains for over a year.)

                    Reply#16 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:35 PM EST
                    Belinda_Joy

                    Oh my gosh American Dreams, you would have a very difficult time being friends with someone like me. I agree with so much of what you have to say about concentrating on the more tangible aspects to people such as integrity, character, morals and values, etc. etc., that is the most important when seeking friendships with someone.

                    However, a pet peeve for me are those that attempt to befriend me with the mindset "I really love Bee, she's a sweetheart, but the fact that she is Black doesn't matter" That type of thought process drives me nuts. Part of what makes me who I am is my ethnicity. So those that attempt to minimize that, are short lived in my life.

                    Aaah your Shop Supervisor....ugh! :o) It's Black people like this that make it hard for us to make inroads on the subject of racial unity. I have people in my family that have what I call "an itchy trigger finger" when it comes to relating to White people. Always poised to shoot off an accusation of racism. Sitting in wait..... That is just wrong no matter how you look at it.

                    Yet I am honest enough to admit I too make it hard to read my own personality on racism and humor. Case in point. I abhor the N-word. Hate it with a passion. I very rarely censor people in my day to day life and allow others there opinion, generally....I have my moments when I call people out on a statement if I feel they are wrong. However, with the N-word, I NEVER allow that to be used in my presence and I don't care who is saying it.

                    Okay, so why is one of the funniest skits I have ever seen on national TV, a skit called the Niggar Family by controversial comedian Dave Chappell? It is hilarious to me. And he has another skit about a racist (Black) White supremacist that is blind and doesn't know he is Black. I laugh so hard it makes me cry. Why? Yet I have seen certain cartoons that are just as offensive of Barack Obama that anger me to no end.

                    Again, it's about the ever elusive line between what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable. It is always moving.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Br85mIiqBk

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i9iTYe6tEk&feature=related

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                    #16.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST
                    onefan51

                    ... and greeted him with "Morning Boss."

                    I'm Black and was a MSgt in the Air Force in 1992. I would have dressed you down to. I wouldn't have lectured you on racism or slavery, but I would have insisted you always addressed me formally using my official military title. Why didn't you?

                    • 3 votes
                    #16.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:41 PM EST
                    American Dreams

                    Onefan51

                    You had to know our shop. Audio-visual personnel generally had a different attitude then the "normal" Air Force. Behind the closed door of the front office and the work area the NCOs were as informal when interacting with the Airmen. I think the creative nature of our work made us pretty informal inside our work environment. This was true in every shop I was assigned to. I spent about 8 years doing briefings, illustrations and special presentations. Had you walked into the front office to place a work order in any shop I was at you would have been greeted in a manner appropriate to your rank such as "Good Morning, MSgt. onefan51. What can we do for you today?"

                    I also spend anothe 8 years or so as an Avionics Comm / Nav. Systems Repair Tech. I worked both in shop and the flight line. It was also informal when working...but everyone knew who was the supervisor and who were the worker bees. We had a MSgt transfer in from 4 years as Instructor at the NCO Academy. His first comments when he walked into the Ready Room on the first day was to find fault with our scuffed boots and somewhat rumpled BDUs. (You try kneeling on the tarmac removing an access panel or spend two hours crammed into a cockpit in the middle of summer chasing a gremlin and making repairs to a wire spice in the middle of two hundred other spliced wires.) He soon realized those who had creases in their pant legs and shiny boots were the ones not doing their job. We were a rowdy bunch. Most of the men were rude crude and socially unacceptable anywhere except the flight line. The women who was assigned to the unit had to learn to stand their ground and be willing to get just as dirty and sweaty as the guys. We had to learn a whole new swearing vocabulary when talking to some of the guys. Otherwise they didn't understand us if we didn't cuss back at them while discussing a technical problem. But when we had vistors we could find our military bearing and act accordingly.

                      #16.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:17 PM EST
                      onefan51

                      You had to know our shop

                      Behind the closed door of the front office and the work area the NCOs were as informal when interacting with the Airmen

                      From what you describe, you worked in one of the most undisciplined and unprofessional military environments that ever existed in the Air Force. And just because it happened didn't make it right. I hope that you clearly understand that. Cussing and swearing at each other, "we were a rowdy bunch," and "most of the men were socially unacceptable anywhere except the flight line." This doesn't sound like the Air Force from which I retired. In fact, the behaviors you describe wouldn't be acceptable anywhere ... including at a company in the civilian world.

                      It is unfortunate that during your enlistment in the Air Force you were required you to work in such an undisciplined and unprofessional environment. It was inexcuable.

                      But when we had vistors we could find our military bearing and act accordingly

                      I don't see how this was possible, nor do I believe it was possible. If you and everyone else knew what "military bearing and act accordingly" meant when vistors were involved, then you and others would have clearly understood the significance of what it meant when interacting each other.

                      Imagine what would happen if discipline and professionalism (CoH) wasn't adhered to in this excellent article written by Belinda Joy. And Tyler and Sally refused to get involved. It would be an illustration of your experience in the Air Force. And based on your comments, it would also include a description of how you view racism.

                      • 1 vote
                      #16.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST
                      American Dreams

                      onefan51

                      I don't see how this was possible, nor do I believe it was possible. If you and everyone else knew what "military bearing and act accordingly" meant when vistors were involved, then you and others would have clearly understood the significance of what it meant when interacting each other.

                      If really doesn't matter if you believe if was possible or not...it was what it was.

                      You are actually "dressing me down " over events that occurred 20 to 25 years ago? And for all intents and propose you are calling me a liar, you insult my service to my country and "pulling your rank"? Cool your jets and chock your wheels. You are not (and were not) my supervisor. You are no longer active duty and just another civilain like myself and thousands of others who served in uniform. With all due respect for your service to our country I don't care if you are Black, I don't care if you are a retired Msgt. I would not care you and President Obama are best buds, your condescending attitude totally uncalled for.

                      I take umbridge at your comments implying I or my co-workers were not "professional". Yes, We were rowdy compare to the main side of base and the work a day world of Admin., finance clerks and Headquarter staff positions. I suspect from your tone of writing and your outrage you worked in a nice, clean, tidy 8 to 5 Staff position. Maybe you were one of the metal taps on your shoes types. If you had gotten down into the nitty gritty world of aircraft maintenance you would have a different POV.

                      We had to be professional. There was far too much at risk to be haphazard. A Pilot and Co-pilot placed their very lives in our hands each time they climbed in and strapped that plane to their butts. The Air Force entrusted us to keep their multi-million dollar equipment functional and ready to roll down that runway in a moment's notice 24/7/365. Maintence personnel had to be and STILL have to be efficient, detail and safety orientated and dedicated in the performance of their assigned jobs.

                      Unlike the main side of base, there was no "Well it's 5 pm. The wife has supper waiting so I'll finish these forms tomorrow". If the plane was scheduled to fly a sortie the next day we stayed until it was fixed or we had a co-worker we could entrust to finish the repairs we started. We worked 16 hour days at times in freezing weather or Texas summer heat if that is what it took to ensure the plane was ready. THAT is a form of professionalism that you appear to be unaware of.

                        #16.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:04 PM EST
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                        American Dreams

                        I love Chappell...his humor was over the top at times but I loved how he would take a swing and score a home run on so many of his characters. Carlos Mencia is another racial comedian I love.

                        You know you must be doing something right if old people like you.
                        Dave Chappelle

                        Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dave_chappelle.html#ixzz1m28PTXgs

                        He must have be doing it right cuz I liked him. You need to be able to laugh at yourself before you even consider laughing with/at someone else. A shame he could not handle the pressures of the limelight.

                        However, a pet peeve for me are those that attempt to befriend me with the mindset "I really love Bee, she's a sweetheart, but the fact that she is Black doesn't matter" That type of thought process drives me nuts. Part of what makes me who I am is my ethnicity. So those that attempt to minimize that, are short lived in my life.

                        Civil conversation in action. Sorry you feel that way. Your ethnicity is a part of you - I can accept that. I guess don't fully understand how one's ethnicity affects how a persons sees themselves. My ethnicity is Irish, Germand and Polish but they do not define "me" and I don't think of them as part of my being. Maybe that's where "we" differ in race discussions? Hummm need to think on this a bit.

                        I see you're Black but by ackowldgeing the obvious doens't that make my observation racsist?

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                        Reply#17 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST
                        Tina-293371

                        The most prejudiced folks are the ones who have been brought up in small towns and have never interacted with folks who weren't just like themselves.
                        All they know of race relations is what they see on tv.
                        Once they get to know a person of a different color, they usually discover that they are more alike than different.

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#18 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:50 PM EST
                        ERich-356044

                        Well said.

                        I have always truly believed that ignorance=prejudice.

                        *Or at least a gateway to it!

                        E

                        • 2 votes
                        #18.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:57 AM EST
                        American Dreams

                        Tina

                        The most prejudiced folks are the ones who have been brought up in small towns and have never interacted with folks who weren't just like themselves.

                        I think this was especially true in the first half of the 20th century. My father had been raised in a small Iowa town but had joined the Navy when he was 18. He served during WWII and his travels broadened his mind. My Mom grew up in Montana. She was 22 before she saw her first black person. As a child I do not remember her making any nasty comments about Blacks or Asian while I was growing up. My Father was a First Sgt and felt everyone should follow the rule and regulations. He did not care if you were black, white, brown or purple, male or female. He did not tolerate remarks that would be called racist by today's standards.

                        As an adult I learned my Mother's true feeling about people of color when she asked me if I had "ever dated one of them?" "Them" being a black man. The black guys I was attracted to already had a girlfriend and I did not believe in "stealing" a guy from another girl.

                        I ran across a newspaper interview of her dated shortly after she returned from Japan late in 1951. Her comments and attitude about the Japanese were probably nothing unusual for the time. But since it was in the late 1960's, her words were nothing short of outrageous. The clipping showed a side of her I had never seen before. She had kept her ugly words and thoughts hidden from us while my Father was alive.

                        Sadly, like many of her generation, the older she got the more vocal she was about her racist attitude towards blacks and asians. I use to cringe in embrassment when she would get started.

                        • 1 vote
                        #18.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST
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                        American Dreams

                        Sorry for the somewhat disjointed comment above - 18.2. My grand-kids were being loverly loud, cranky, pushy and distracting while I was typing it. I tried to edit it prior to posting but the disruptions continued. I hope you can make sense of it.

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#19 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:22 PM EST
                        Tina-293371

                        No worries, American.
                        I have grand kids too.

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                        #19.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:59 PM EST
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                        Tina-293371

                        Bottom line:

                        There is only one race: the human race.

                        I realize that this point of view is naive. Humans have always separated themselves by their color and will no doubt continue to do so.

                        But I can hope, right?

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                        Reply#20 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:34 AM EST
                        onefan51

                        There is only one race: the human race

                        Tina, you are correct. Race is a social construct, not a biological one. There is a story about Albert Einstein processing through through U.S. Customs as an immigrate. As he was completing his immigration papers, he had to check a "box" for race, he wrote in "human." If your point of view is naive, then one of the most brilliant scientists in history, Albert Einstein, also shares your point of view.

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                        #20.1 - Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:16 PM EST
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